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Pete's Homemade HHO Generator Update

As some of you know, I’ve been a little tied up lately and so haven’t been working on my generator.  I did get to work on it some this past weekend and thought I’d pass along the experience. 

 

First, as I stated in an earlier email, I’d conceded my position on the use of baking soda for the catalyst.  A friend had some NaOH (Sodium Hydroxide) and graciously gave me a small amount and in so doing advised me that when I started to use it that it would clean up my stainless steal plates.  He also advised me to use a very small amount.  I dumped the old water from the generator and rinsed it out, then filled it with distilled water, 8 cups.  I then added ½ teaspoon of NaOH. Turned on the Astron power supply and the amp gauge read 10 amps, but there was nothing in the bubbler bottle.  The generator has “fizzed up” when I turned it on but was basically doing nothing after that.  I gave it a few minutes and still nothing so I decided to add another ½ teaspoon.  Turned the Astron back on and got 20 amps and hydro in the bubbler bottle.  After a few minutes the amp gauge was nearing 30 amps and so I decided to cut the solution.  I poured out 2 cups of solution and added back in 2 cups of distilled water.  The astron was showing 20 amps again but after a few minutes it was nearing 30 amps. 

There was a fair amount of crud that had gathered in the bottom of the generator, presumably the NaOH was cleaning up my generator from having used baking soda previously, so I decided to take the generator apart, strain the solution and again cut it with 2 cups of distilled water.  While I had it apart I noticed that my two outside plates, negative plates, were shiny along the edges, where the NaOH had started to clean them,  but had a film of rusty looking crud everywhere else.  My dremel was handy and already had a brass brush chucked up so I decided to just clean those two outside surfaces.  Put it all back together, cut the solution, turned on the astron and bam, it hit 40 amps. Needless to say, I had to cut the solution a couple of more times before I got it back to about 12.  I let it run for a couple of hours and it settled at about 20 amps hot.  This next weekend I’ll complete disassemble the generator and clean all of the plates.

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I then put it back on the van, installing a relay this time so that it would work automatically when the motor was running.  This thing is still getting awfully hot after it runs for a while and one of the issues that I’ve had was that when it was hot and I’d turn it off, upon cooling it would suck all of the water out of my bubbler bottle.  I had a check valve which I could put in the line between the generator and the bubbler but that was going to create another problem.  If I prevented the generator from sucking water from the bottle, it was going to create a vacuum in the generator which had no way to equalize.  I stopped by Car Quest and found a vacuum check valve, $4.89.  This thing is perfect.  It has a very very low cracking pressure and the end that goes to the generator is the same size as a 1/8” copper line.  I got a ferrule fitting and plumbed it to my generator. Now as the generator starts to cool, it pulls air in through the new check valve and leaves the water in the bubbler.  The cracking pressure is so low that I didn’t need a check valve in the line between the bubbler and the generator. 

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I had to go to Birmingham today and again tomorrow so I stopped and filled up this morning, after my trip tomorrow I’ll let you know what king of mileage I got.  Today’s trip has turned up another issue.  Although the generator ran for a couple of hours in my garage with no problems, during my trip today the bubbler bottle filled with solution.  My assumption is that is was from the condensation of the hot gases coming from the generator, but then why didn’t it do it in the garage.  The only difference is that the van was riding down the road but most of the trip was on the interstate where there was very little to no shaking that could have splashed water into the tube that connects the generator to the bubbler.  Again I state that this thing is getting awfully hot, which is probably the issue that I should concentrate on.

 

Ok, that’s all for now.  Hopefully there is something here that can be of benefit to you as you experiment.  Good luck.

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Things They don't Tell you on You Tube container Things they don't tell you on you-tube about HHO generators is the heat on the positive and negative connections. I was using one those great looking Wal-Mart containers.

Looked Great but failed burnThis is what happens to them after running for a week . The heat melts the lid. 2nd grade science we learned heat rises, so all the heat travels up the plates and bolts to the top. Top melts. As you can see the heat from the pos and neg post burn the top up. Gas leaked for a few days on last fill up.
! decided to build a new unit.

 

How to find out how much baking soda to use in you HHO Generator.

This is how I did it.
7:40 Pm fill HHO generator with water and 1/2 tsp baking soda 2amps
7:45 Pm 1/2 tsp bs 2 amps
7:55 Pm 1 tsp bs 5 amps
8:10 Pm 1 tsp bs 6 amps
8:15 Pm 1 tsp bs 6 amps
8:20 Pm 1 1/4 tsp bs 8 amps
8:30 Pm 1 1/2 tsp bs 9 3/4 amps
8:35 Pm 1 1/2 tsp bs 10 amps
8:40 Pm 1 1/2 tsp bs 10.5 amps
8:41 Pm 1 3/4 tsp bs 12 amps
8:45 Pm 2 tsp bs 14 amps
8:50 Pm 2 1/2 tsp 15 amps
As you can see i added either 1/4 or 1/2 tsp baking soda . The figures shown are the total amount of baking soda in water at the time, not added each time.
Next morning starting at 8:20 am the hho generator was running 7 1/2 amps outside temp .After about 30 minutes it was upto 15 amps, at 10:00 am it had risen to 19 amps. As the the amps rise so does the heat. Ad heat and amps rise in HHO Generators the gas out put also rises.

In the next couple of days i will refill the tank, get mileage ready and report here so check back.

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7 Plate Cells for My HHO Generator 7 cell hho generator

7 Plate design is - n n + n n -

I started off with just 3 plates - + -, but i did not get the gas production i was looking for. I had seen some were using neutral plates ( not connected to positive or negitive post). Have no idea for this but the amps are lower and use more baking soda. Before using this setup the most baking soda i could use was 1/2 tsp baking soda.The hydrogen generator seems to run great at 15 amps with 2 1/2 tsp of baking soda. That is(tea spoons) not table spoon.

How the Hydrogen Gas is Made Hydrogen is everywhere, most comman place for us is water H2O. The way we get hydrogen out of water for our hho generators is with electrolysis (water splitting). We do this with the stainless steel plates, voltage from battery, and electrolyte. The electrolyte can be salt, baking soda,drain cleaner or gallium.
As the temp goes up with the amps from battery, hydrogen and oxygen is seperated from the water. They rise from the hho generator thru the hose into the motor thru the breather. It's pretty simple.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/thermo/electrol.html

electrolysis (water splitting).

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http://smacksboosters.110mb.com/Smack.pdf
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Free plans for oxygen xensor controller. If you are into electronic gadets, flashing lights this is for you. List of parts , diagram, and how to set up and adjust this hho generator oxygen sensor adjuster.
http://www.free-energy-info.com/D17.pdf

If you are a nuts and bolts type person, and the simplest way to go take a look at .
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http://www.protiumfuelsystems.com/oxyisolator.html $24.99
This looks like nothing more than a spark plug non-fouler found at autozone for $3.99 .
O'riley 2 for $3.59
Why pay more
You will need to check the thread of O2 sensor and buy one with the correct threads. This may vary from car to car. Some vehicles require two O2 sensors. A 5/8 drill bit will be needed to drill out the plug.
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Hydroxy%20Boosters.pdf

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